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| Topic Started: Nov 27 2007, 06:03 PM (542 Views) | |
| XNavyGunner | Nov 27 2007, 06:03 PM Post #1 |
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"They shall make an ark of acacia wood," God commanded Moses in the Book of Exodus, after delivering the Israelites from slavery in Egypt. And so the Israelites built an ark, or chest, gilding it inside and out. And into this chest Moses placed stone tablets inscribed with the Ten Commandments, as given to him on Mount Sinai. Thus Jews came to revere the ark as an earthly manifestation of God. The Old Testament describes its enormous powers—blazing with fire and light, halting rivers, blasting away armies and bringing down the fabled walls of Jericho. (Steven Spielberg's 1981 film Raiders of the Lost Ark provides a special-effects approximation.) According to the First Book of Kings, King Solomon built the First Temple in Jerusalem to house the ark. It was venerated there during Solomon's reign (c. 970-930 B.C.) and beyond. Then it vanished. Much of Jewish tradition holds that it disappeared before or while the Babylonians sacked the temple in Jerusalem in 586 B.C. But through the centuries, Ethiopian Christians have claimed that the ark rests in a chapel in the small town of Aksum, in their country's northern highlands. It arrived nearly 3,000 years ago, they say, and has been guarded by a succession of virgin monks who, once anointed, are forbidden to set foot outside the chapel grounds until they die. One of the first things that caught my eye in Addis Ababa, the country's capital, was an enormous concrete pillar topped by a giant red star—the sort of monument to communism still visible in Pyongyang. The North Koreans built this one as a gift for the Derg, the Marxist regime that ruled Ethiopia from 1974 to 1991 (the country is now governed by an elected parliament and prime minister). In a campaign that Derg officials named the Red Terror, they slaughtered their political enemies—estimates range from several thousand to more than a million people. The most prominent of their victims was Emperor Haile Selassie, whose death, under circumstances that remain contested, was announced in 1975. He was the last emperor of Ethiopia—and, he claimed, the 225th monarch, descended from Menelik, the ruler believed responsible for Ethiopia's possession of the ark of the covenant in the tenth century B.C. The story is told in the Kebra Negast (Glory of the Kings), Ethiopia's chronicle of its royal line: the Queen of Sheba, one of its first rulers, traveled to Jerusalem to partake of King Solomon's wisdom; on her way home, she bore Solomon's son, Menelik. Later Menelik went to visit his father, and on his return journey was accompanied by the firstborn sons of some Israelite nobles—who, unbeknown to Menelik, stole the ark and carried it with them to Ethiopia. When Menelik learned of the theft, he reasoned that since the ark's frightful powers hadn't destroyed his retinue, it must be God's will that it remain with him. Many historians—including Richard Pankhurst, a British-born scholar who has lived in Ethiopia for almost 50 years—date the Kebra Negast manuscript to the 14th century A.D. It was written, they say, to validate the claim by Menelik's descendants that their right to rule was God-given, based on an unbroken succession from Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. But the Ethiopian faithful say the chronicles were copied from a fourth-century Coptic manuscript that was, in turn, based on a far earlier account. This lineage remained so important to them that it was written into Selassie's two imperial constitutions, in 1931 and 1955. More Long but good. |
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| Isis | Dec 6 2007, 11:33 PM Post #2 |
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If they just could find the lost Ark, Can you image the excitement that would cause...
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| GreatWhiteHorse | Dec 7 2007, 02:15 AM Post #3 |
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Im not sure that the ark even existed, but if they find one...you better keep your eyes closed when they open it! "Marian, don't look! Close your eyes, Marian-Don't look at it! No matter what happens, don't open your eyes!" |
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| LarryOldtimer | Dec 11 2007, 05:43 PM Post #4 |
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I think that the ark existed, but I think that it was hidden in or near Jerusalem. One of these days . . . perhaps. |
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| Ace | Dec 16 2007, 10:20 AM Post #5 |
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Don't think it existed in as an actual material structure but more of a symbol which represented something such as a point the bible was trying to bring across. That occurs a lot in the bible. For example Adam and Eve. Ive heard a couple of times that they were not actual people but used to explain some basic things about life such as human greed, original sin, how evil lures us in, ect. The Ark and the storm which made the whole world into an ocean was probably just something like that but who am I to say... |
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| Isis | Dec 17 2007, 06:40 PM Post #6 |
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Ace you just explained a huge amount of the bible... 
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| LarryOldtimer | Mar 20 2008, 07:37 PM Post #7 |
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I would say that there is far too much detail concerning the Ark that it didnt exist. Not that we have any way of knowing mow just how it worked, though. The religious set up a set of rules for humans to live by, in order for one human to be able to get along with other humans. Without rules, we just can't get along. As soon as one human comes into contact with another human, each attempts to control the other. Just the way humans are. It is not all that different from the way other animals exist (or compete) with each other. Until recent times, the religious said that if we didn't obey these "rules of God", that God would punishment. It is not any wonder that in the Old Testament, and up until recent times, that a respected person was called "God fearing". The punishment that God supposedly meted out was dreadful indeed. Now we know, or at least the more educated among us know, that what struck fear into humans were really natural happenings. The earth does quake, and the hurricanes and tornadoes do roar. So too, are there volcanic eruptions. But we know now that these aren't any manifestation of any god. The scare game doesn't work anymore. That doesn't mean that there doesn't have to be rules by which we interact with each other. But without a fear of God to enforce rules, the rules aren't being enforced now. Without enforcement of some widely approved rules, we have anarchy, which is about what it is getting to be. The Founding Fathers of the US set forth only rules of the iinteractions between a federal; governmemt and the states. The rights of individual were but an afterthought, and little time was taken to examine these amendments to the Constitution. Still, the concepts of the Founding Fathers were mew. and untired. The government recognition of the existence of private intellectual property was entirely new. So was the concept of individuals owning private property. For that matter, so was the very idea of no group of people having a "divine right" to rule other people. For political purposes, most of the rights of individuals has been done away by the SCOTUS in past times. More rights of individuals will be lost in the future, for the same political purposes. The greatest wisdom of the Founding Fathers was that each of them recognized that none of them were wise enough to rule or set the rules about what others did. Now, we have people on the political scene who demonstrate that they haven't the wisdom to rule and run their own lives. Yet, they insist, they have the wisdom to set the rules for others. Hogwash. Sorry to all if I made this about politics. |
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| Isis | Mar 26 2008, 12:57 AM Post #8 |
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I happen to think it once was a real object, Now if that object is hide somewhere waiting to be found again ..well......
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| LarryOldtimer | Mar 30 2008, 06:39 PM Post #9 |
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I agree, Isis, and it would be a great find. Somewhere, in the environs of Jeruslaem, it was buried, I think. As I said, far too much detail for a mere myth. |
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| Darknight | Mar 31 2008, 02:40 AM Post #10 |
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 Sounds like someone has been hitting the indiana jones movies again. As for the ark I would like to see them find it. How ever I think there chances are slim. And I'm not being biased here either. With all the detail thats been presented do they at least know where to go look for it? |
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| nfinity_8 | Oct 19 2008, 02:20 AM Post #11 |
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I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IF THE ARK WAS MEANT TO BE FOUND IT WOULD BE....AND WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT IT WILL BE FOUND....THERE ARE SO MANY SPECULATIONS AND THEORIES ABOUT THE ARK...JUST LIKE THE HOLY GRAIL AND NOAH'S ARK....THESE THINGS WEREN'T MEANT TO BE FOUND......YET......MAYBE SOMEDAY.........
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| Mystical | Oct 28 2008, 04:43 AM Post #12 |
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We can all speculate and hope for the best with these things. Fact is they haven't been found. I'm hoping that they do actually find proof of them. That would be an amazing find but so far. NOPE! |
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| Imago | Oct 28 2008, 08:11 PM Post #13 |
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"Da-dada da da-da, da-dada da dada da da, da-dada da da dee, da dadadum dadadum dadadum da dee dee." Yes, that was supposed to be the indiana jones theme, and i know, not a very good interpretaion :P Well, i hope they find the lost ark, but i doubt i'll believe that God exists if they do, I think i'll need a miracle to happen to me for me to truely believe, but even then there'll still be a doubt in my mind. |
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| nfinity_8 | Nov 3 2008, 12:28 PM Post #14 |
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I think that those things will be found when the time is right....I do believe in God...and I think He will reveal all the answers we ask ourselves and each other in due time...There are so many things that are unanswered....And so many things that I personally would like to know...about God, other religions, and many other things..... |
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| recondaws | Aug 6 2009, 11:36 AM Post #15 |
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Its a box........A pretty gold box.......If it had stone tablets in it they would be sand or powder by now. I believe that a gold box did exist and when they find it it will make a nice addition to the smithsonian. Right next to the slivers of wood that were part of a big boat. |
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