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Drag me to Hell
Topic Started: Jun 7 2009, 03:25 PM (282 Views)
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I must say after seeing the movie Drag Me To Hell I was very scared.

Newbloodmoon, have you seen this movie? If so, can you explain the main demon and if what the movie states is accurate?

It involves a curse to "call" the demon and it is extremely scarey to me.

Thanks for any input you may have :)
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I have not seen the movie yet, but I plan too. When I do see it, (probably next weekend) then I will give my full report.
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Ok cool. Here is a snippet about the demon:

""...who tells her that she has been cursed and that she is to be tormented for three days by a demon called the Lamia before being dragged to Hell to burn for eternity...""
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I can't wait to see that movie, I love horrors especially those type. Also I love Sam Raimi's Evil Dead series.
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well Lamia traditionally as Greek myth puts it, is more akin to vampires in that she is a child eater. I have never seen or heard any mention of her tormenting people and dragging them off to hell after three days.
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Lamia
by Micha F. Lindemans
The ancient Greeks believed that the Lamia was a vampire who stole little children to drink their blood. She was portrayed as a snake-like creature with a female head and breasts. Usually female, but sometimes referred to as a male or a hermaphrodite.

According to legend, she was once a Libyan queen (or princess) who fell in love with Zeus. Zeus' jealous wife Hera deformed her into a monster and murdered their offspring. She also made Lamia unable to close her eyes, so that she couldn't find any rest from the obsessing image of her dead children. When Zeus saw what had be done to Lamia, he felt pity for her and gave his former lover a gift: she could remove her eyes, and then put them on again. This way, though sleepless, she could rest from her misfortune. Lamia envied the other mothers and took her vengeance by stealing their children and devouring them.

In Lamia and other Poems (1820), the English poet John Keats writes about Lamia too. In this version, based on the information he found in Anatomy of Melancholy of the 1600s, Lamia has the ability to change herself into a beautiful young woman. Here she assumes a human form to win a man's love.

Another version of this myth states that Hera killed Lamia's children and that it was her grief that turned her into a monster. (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/lamia.html)

According to Diodorus Siculus, Lamia was born the beautiful daughter of King Belus of Egypt, making her the granddaughter of Poseidon and Lybie.[6] Upon her father's death she became queen of one of his territories, Libya.[7] However, while visiting Delphi, Pausanias remarks that Lamia was the daughter of Poseidon. He also states that Lamia and Zeus were the parents of the Delphic sibyl Herophile.

Myths point out that Lamia had an affair with Zeus and bore him children. When Hera, Zeus's wife, discovered the affair, she forced Lamia to eat her own children. Driven insane with grief, Lamia began murdering and devouring other children, and, according to Diodorus,[8] her face became hideously distorted from her grisly deeds. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamia_(mythology))

Just two short bits to support my above post, I will continue to look into but I believe it to be a Hollywood adaptation to make Drag Me To Hell really scary. Nothing wrong with that in the least.
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Hmm... I wonder if any of that follows the Lamia curse we see in the movie?

I've been wanting to see the movie, too. Maybe I'll also share my review after.... "coffee"
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I won't know until I actually see the movie if they follow the myths and legends of that particular demon but at this point nothing sounds familiar.
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Okay that's it, let's go see the movie........And when we come back, we can all talk then, lol.
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yea, with my work schedule it probably won't be for a bit before I see it.
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I loved Evil Dead as well Var. This was a far cry from Bruce's chainsaw hand tho. That was more of an entertaining humourous horror flick series. This however scared the living heebie jeebies outta me... no lie. I don't want to build it up too much because then people might have great expectations. What I will say is this... it's not necessarily the storyline that makes this movie good... it is the suspense and sheer horror for me. I can handle most slasher movies no problem. However, movies based on demons or real (true) serial killers totally freak me out. The reason these kinds of movies have such an impact on me is because well the serial killer stuff is based on truth and the demon stuff we just don't know. THAT is what makes it horrifying for me. I hope I just made sense there.


Thank you for the information on Lamia. Now that I read that I just realized we have a vampire member by that name, I think!! How ODD!

I am really digging this demonology area so thank you Newbloodmoon for all of your expertise.

Anything you have done in the past that CAN be discuss please post for us!! Oh course only if you can and no pressure!
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yep no problem, will definitely keep things coming
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I definitely gotta see this. This looks like a real horror movie!
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Lamia sounds alot like lilith.
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Lamia was a beautiful woman whose children were taken away in jealousy by Hera because Zeus had loved her. In revenge, Lamia began to steal and kill the children of others. She became a hideous creature. Because Hera had condemned her to sleeplessness, Zeus gave Lamia the ability to remove her own eyes at will in order to sleep. In later legend the lamia was a vampire that seduced young men; this version of the story inspired the poem Lamia (1820) by John Keats.

As indicated here, the myth of Lamia is also associated with a similar myth, that of "the lamia" or the "lamiae."

According to Bell's Women of Classical Mythology, the Greek myth of the Lamiae is as follows:

Lamiae, obviously related to the persona of Lamia, the fearful child-snatcher, were handsome ghostly women who by various sensuous means lured young men to their beds. There they enjoyed the fresh, youthful energy of their victims, then drank their blood and ate their flesh. (271)

So although Lamia's mythological origins are quite different from those of Lilith, at some unidentified point ("in later legend"), Lamia's identity was merged with that of the Lamiae and she was, therefore, endowed with characteristics strikingly similar to those of Lilith. This may have occurred prior to the writing of the Vulgate in 5th century CE. Regardless, it is only with Keats' poem that the two tales become enmeshed, not to ever become completely separated again.

With the writing of Keats' "Lamia" poem in 1819, however, a connection becomes forged. Though the title character is never referred to as Lilith, the similarities between these two figures are too prominent to be overlooked. Both a female enchantress and a she-demon of sorts, Lamia is the archetypal Romantic representation of Lilith, the femme fatale. While a mysterious, possibly evil past is alluded to in the poem, Lamia is never branded as "evil" or "immoral." Keats paints her character to be one of a genuine lover trapped in unfortunate circumstances, and the reader is invited to feel her pain. This invites a beginning of transformation for Lilith, for while Lamia/Lilith is still identified with wickedness, these negative aspects are overlooked and redefined in such a way as to make them unimportant.

source: http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/4240/lamia.html

they have their similarities yes
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